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Mayor of tiny Prague suburb writes to Putin
#1
Mayor of Řeporyje (4500 inhabitants) trolls Russia hard. He was always a massive troll. Here are parts of the letter to Putin that someone translated to English. It’s big news on Russian telly, lol. The dispute is that Prague suburb wants to build statue to group of soldiers that freed Prague, but Russia considers them “Nazis” and is pissed off. In reality this was heterogenous group of soldiers mostly let down by communist Russia. 
It’s funny because Russian media take it seriously and also include 99% lies about both historical role of Vlasovites and about who actually has the power in Prague/Czechia. (They make it seem it is our drunk pro Russian president, who is actually mostly ceremoniary figure.)

“We will not consult our desire to install a monument to ROA, and about their historic role, with anyone from the outside, let alone Russia, a symbol of occupation, lies and human rights violations. A beautiful country, to which I would wish another, not the current government, self reflection, and more international recognition, which it claims only through the demonstrations of force and gas pipelines.
Řeporyje are a sovereign, independent part of Prague, which decides via its own elected representatives, to whom, when, and where, it will build a monument. That all after a debate with the public, which allows any resident to express his opinion without fear. I would very much wish this for the citizens of the Russia Federation, which murders journalists, is feeding the population through schools and media an alternative account of history and contemporaneity, and regularly forgets that where the borders of the RF end begins the territory of others.


The planned monument to Vlasovites will be decided by Řeporyje alone, not by Russia. Řeporyje has a far better experience with Vlasovites than with you, you caricatures of your own selves with a nuclear suitcase behind your arses, head full of vodka and dark consciousness. The Czech Republic is a democratic country, where you can send agents, money for the campaigns of fuckwits that are loyal to you, doped up sportsmen, and comments on what irks you through your diplomats. We can only respect that, or rather acknowledge that.
Please acknowledge that it is not within your power to stop us from erecting a monument to the 300 soldiers that died here fighting Nazis… (I don’t get the following few words). You would only be able to remove it when next you shall occupy us and enslave is. Until then, it is of no use to bother us, as it is of no use to poison with novichok, or pressure me personally. I am not saying this because I am afraid of you you lying, rude, self centered, arrogant fuckwits.
I am telling you this because if local people wish to install a monument because they believe Řeporyje and Prague owe it to the Vlasovites, they will build it.”



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Mayor of Řeporyje delivering the letter to Putin to Russian embassy.

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Russian government reaction here:
https://tass.com/world/1093841
Btw that part abour Nurnberg trials is total bullshit, these trials never declared what they claim here.

The bigger point is that Russia is even worse than Western media, some mayor of tiny unimportant area in another country wants statue of supposed "Russian enemies" (Whose role in freeing Prague is obvious, 300 of them died ) based on Soviet propaganda and Russians are all over it, threatening left and right. Big Grin
Anyway, I really enjoy the Trump-like language used in the letter.
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#2
I know that nobody cares, but the pettiness continues Big Grin

"Czech Minister of Agriculture Miroslav Toman has prematurely ended his five-day visit to Russia, the daily e15 reported on Thursday. Mr Toman, who was accompanied by a delegation of Czech entrepreneurs, was supposed to fly from Moscow to Kazan on Wednesday, but the Russian authorities prevented him from doing so. 

Mr Toman told the daily he was alarmed by the attitude of the Russian side, adding that it raised the question whether Russia was genuinely interested in cooperation with the Czech Republic. "
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(11-29-2019, 08:03 AM)Andrew Wrote: I know that nobody cares, but the pettiness continues Big Grin

"Czech Minister of Agriculture Miroslav Toman has prematurely ended his five-day visit to Russia, the daily e15 reported on Thursday. Mr Toman, who was accompanied by a delegation of Czech entrepreneurs, was supposed to fly from Moscow to Kazan on Wednesday, but the Russian authorities prevented him from doing so. 

Mr Toman told the daily he was alarmed by the attitude of the Russian side, adding that it raised the question whether Russia was genuinely interested in cooperation with the Czech Republic. "

People don't care unless it directly affects them most of the time.   What about meeeeeeeee? syndrome.  Big Grin 

I understand why you care.   You are proud of your country and it is David standing up to Goliath.  If more countries had leaders like this, we wouldn't have such a mess in the West.  The USA is going to split up no matter what Trump does now (for example).  UK is probably fucked too. Etc.
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(11-28-2019, 11:11 PM)Andrew Wrote: Mayor of Řeporyje (4500 inhabitants) trolls Russia hard. He was always a massive troll. Here are parts of the letter to Putin that someone translated to English. It’s big news on Russian telly, lol. The dispute is that Prague suburb wants to build statue to group of soldiers that freed Prague, but Russia considers them “Nazis” and is pissed off. In reality this was heterogenous group of soldiers mostly let down by communist Russia. 
It’s funny because Russian media take it seriously and also include 99% lies about both historical role of Vlasovites and about who actually has the power in Prague/Czechia. (They make it seem it is our drunk pro Russian president, who is actually mostly ceremoniary figure.)

“We will not consult our desire to install a monument to ROA, and about their historic role, with anyone from the outside, let alone Russia, a symbol of occupation, lies and human rights violations. A beautiful country, to which I would wish another, not the current government, self reflection, and more international recognition, which it claims only through the demonstrations of force and gas pipelines.
Řeporyje are a sovereign, independent part of Prague, which decides via its own elected representatives, to whom, when, and where, it will build a monument. That all after a debate with the public, which allows any resident to express his opinion without fear. I would very much wish this for the citizens of the Russia Federation, which murders journalists, is feeding the population through schools and media an alternative account of history and contemporaneity, and regularly forgets that where the borders of the RF end begins the territory of others.


The planned monument to Vlasovites will be decided by Řeporyje alone, not by Russia. Řeporyje has a far better experience with Vlasovites than with you, you caricatures of your own selves with a nuclear suitcase behind your arses, head full of vodka and dark consciousness. The Czech Republic is a democratic country, where you can send agents, money for the campaigns of fuckwits that are loyal to you, doped up sportsmen, and comments on what irks you through your diplomats. We can only respect that, or rather acknowledge that.
Please acknowledge that it is not within your power to stop us from erecting a monument to the 300 soldiers that died here fighting Nazis… (I don’t get the following few words). You would only be able to remove it when next you shall occupy us and enslave is. Until then, it is of no use to bother us, as it is of no use to poison with novichok, or pressure me personally. I am not saying this because I am afraid of you you lying, rude, self centered, arrogant fuckwits.
I am telling you this because if local people wish to install a monument because they believe Řeporyje and Prague owe it to the Vlasovites, they will build it.”



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Mayor of Řeporyje delivering the letter to Putin to Russian embassy.

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Russian government reaction here:
https://tass.com/world/1093841
Btw that part abour Nurnberg trials is total bullshit, these trials never declared what they claim here.

The bigger point is that Russia is even worse than Western media, some mayor of tiny unimportant area in another country wants statue of supposed "Russian enemies" (Whose role in freeing Prague is obvious, 300 of them died ) based on Soviet propaganda and Russians are all over it, threatening left and right. Big Grin
Anyway, I really enjoy the Trump-like language used in the letter.
May I also point out the dude looks like a cross between Robbie Williams and Luciano Pavarotti.  Good physiognomy.
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Meanwhile, the trolling mayor is preparing for the arrival of Russian armed forces. We can win this! Big Grin

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Originally it was a genuine effort to build a statue for these soldiers who freed Prague, and nobody really cared. Mostly it's poking the bear now, assuming he wont attack because NATO/EU. We say that "the eagle (Russia) shouldn't concern himself with catching flies" (trolling unimportant dude that somehow became a mayor of tiny suburb).
This guy Pavel Novotný has been a career troll, quite a lowlife, son of a comic, writing for the worst tabloids about fake tits and who vomited at which party, and the fact this became somewhat serious international matter is crazy. It's probably about 5% funny without proper context which is kinda impossible to give though.
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#6
So...Russians invited him to their ”Russia 1” state TV channel...big mistake! They had  to cut him off after about 5 minutes because he mentioned Molotov - Ribbentrop pact and Katyn massacre Big Grin He started off big argument in the studio and the female moderator totally lost nerves. Fun stuff. “Borat attack”.

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(11-29-2019, 10:26 PM)Andrew Wrote: So...Russians invited him to their ”Russia 1” state TV channel...big mistake! They had  to cut him off after about 5 minutes because he mentioned Molotov - Ribbentrop pact and Katyn massacre Big Grin He started off big argument in the studio and the female moderator totally lost nerves. Fun stuff. “Borat attack”.

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Do the Czechs typically not get on with Russians??
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It’s ok with individual Russians mostly. They study here etc. There is a minority of Czechs who adore Russians and want socialism back, and majority that doesn’t like Russia and wants to beat them in hockey. 
There is a fear of growing Russian influence - secret services, influencing elections etc. For example, Russian embassy in Prague has about 150 people, way more than USA/China. 
Russia occupied Czechoslovakia for 40 years and as you can see, even today wants to decide which statues are appropriate. People hate that.

The problem is that Russia continues to erase/rewrite problematic parts from their history. Germans apologize almost too much, every year, while Russia is perfect according to Russian propaganda and Stalin is the biggest Russian. They never mention killing Poles en masse in Katyn. They still often frame 1968 invasion as “help”. That’s why one has to be careful and preferably deeply rooted in NATO/EU, whatever his opinion of EU issuses.
Russia needs to periodically boost low confidence by taking Crimea etc.  It’s similar to Muslims and terror, outburts of anger because what Russians think of Russia is not reality anymore. So at least they satisfy this desire to dominate on a smaller scale.

In a distant past there was this romantic idea that Russia will be the leader of all Slavic nations, but those who then went there realized “Fuck no.” pretty quickly. We have nothing in common culturally or in mindset, except those recent 40 years of occupation and some language similarities.
Now I love smart Russians who live here, as long as they don’t spread bullshit ideology, which most don’t, that’s what they fled in the first place, and I’m happy they feel at home here, maybe more so than in Paris etc.
Czech spa town Karlovy Vary has Russian signs, church, people...Russian tzar loved it in early 18th century so they love it today, even though it’s harder and harder for them politically and economically.

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#9
Apparently British Channel 4 made a documentary on the practices in Russian TV and "discussion" shows like this, which is something that could actually be interesting to forum members. The world according to Putin.




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(11-30-2019, 02:14 PM)Andrew Wrote: It’s ok with individual Russians mostly. They study here etc. There is a minority of Czechs who adore Russians and want socialism back, and majority that doesn’t like Russia and wants to beat them in hockey. 
There is a fear of growing Russian influence - secret services, influencing elections etc. For example, Russian embassy in Prague has about 150 people, way more than USA/China. 
Russia occupied Czechoslovakia for 40 years and as you can see, even today wants to decide which statues are appropriate. People hate that.

The problem is that Russia continues to erase/rewrite problematic parts from their history. Germans apologize almost too much, every year, while Russia is perfect according to Russian propaganda and Stalin is the biggest Russian. They never mention killing Poles en masse in Katyn. They still often frame 1968 invasion as “help”. That’s why one has to be careful and preferably deeply rooted in NATO/EU, whatever his opinion of EU issuses.
Russia needs to periodically boost low confidence by taking Crimea etc.  It’s similar to Muslims and terror, outburts of anger because what Russians think of Russia is not reality anymore. So at least they satisfy this desire to dominate on a smaller scale.

In a distant past there was this romantic idea that Russia will be the leader of all Slavic nations, but those who then went there realized “Fuck no.” pretty quickly. We have nothing in common culturally or in mindset, except those recent 40 years of occupation and some language similarities.
Now I love smart Russians who live here, as long as they don’t spread bullshit ideology, which most don’t, that’s what they fled in the first place, and I’m happy they feel at home here, maybe more so than in Paris etc.
Czech spa town Karlovy Vary has Russian signs, church, people...Russian tzar loved it in early 18th century so they love it today, even though it’s harder and harder for them politically and economically.

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That's actually very interesting.  We're told in the UK that "diversity is our strength" and other such meaningless and inane slogans..Yet history is replete with examples of closely aligned cultures / peoples who just cannot get on together when forced to mix in large numbers.

Makes you wonder if it's actually all deliberate and they want war.  Why else flood Europe with 3rd world scum?
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Probably some simple explanation. Like “I earn money from human trafficking, I will then be able to live well with my tribe in some kind of gated community and who the fuck cares about others or the future?”
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(11-30-2019, 09:57 PM)Andrew Wrote: Apparently British Channel 4 made a documentary on the practices in Russian TV and "discussion" shows like this, which is something that could actually be interesting to forum members. The world according to Putin.





All of British TV is converged but Channel 4 lies more than most.  I wouldn't believe a word of that documentary.  It will be highly biased.
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It’s just a collection of clips from Russian TV, no commentary. It’s not bad in showing the level of propaganda going on in Russia though. But I agree British TV probably has it’s own objectivity issues, being affected by leftists.
That’s why I see the danger of “Our telly is kinda bad now, let’s believe uncle Putin instead!” 

I mean, Russian most decorated political TV show is usually 5 vs 1 where the one trying to be factual gets beaten up, literally, and it ends with a clip of Putin adoration:-)

That Cathy Newman Jordan Peterson clip is only about 20% there in propaganda.

 For example, this was said by Zirinovsky on “60 minutes” who got 13% votes/ 7 million votes in 2016.
Moderator: “What should we do? How to react? They (Czechs) are a sovereign state, foreign country. We have no relationship to them and they want (statue of) Vlasov. They decided so.”
Zirinovsky: “Stalin’s mistake in 1945. He should have sent real occupation army, 100 thousand to Poland, Hungary, Czechia, Slovakia, Romania, Bulgaria, and milion soldiers to Germany. And shut everyone’s mouths, so they would shut up till today and for the next 100 years. But what have we done? We told them: build socialism. They don’t want to, they aren’t communists. They are entrepreneurs. We forced on them foreign regime. They would have to endure our army, they wouldn’t even remember Vlasov, because: they would have elections, all industry would be transfered to Russia, Germany would be transformed to agriculture based on Churchill, without any state. Let them grow potatoes. Czechs should make sausages and beer, that’s all. We had a right to do all this. They were all agressors. Everyone went east against USSR! Everyone! All Eastern Europe! All except Portugal and Greece. We should have punished them all. Churchill, Truman and Roosevelt would agree. But we decided otherwise. We told them “Build..” and we started feeding them. We took away from our people, we gave great soup to German girls and normal food to our people! And we fed Germans, who burnt half the country! We should have let them perish! They wouldn’t be here today! Czechs wouldn’t be here! Ukrainians wouldn’t be here as well! And Vlasov wouldn’t dare to do anything there...he reportedly came to Prague...that weirdo (our trolling mayor) is lying! Vlasov wanted, he thought he could control Czechia! Slavs after all. But Czechs expelled him, because (Soviet) tanks from Germany were approaching and helped free Czechoslovakia! Nevertheless, Czechs  take revenge against us on purpose, like Poles, like Ukrainians! They want to destroy all Soviet monuments and build statues to traitors!”
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After Kremlins hysterical reaction to Czech statue debate, there is now a petition to rename square in front of Russian embassy in Prague to “Boris Nemtsov square”. Big Grin What better way to show we aren’t rusophobes? Cool
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Nemtsov

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(11-30-2019, 12:02 PM)In SteveJabba Wrote:
(11-29-2019, 10:26 PM)Andrew Wrote: So...Russians invited him to their ”Russia 1” state TV channel...big mistake! They had  to cut him off after about 5 minutes because he mentioned Molotov - Ribbentrop pact and Katyn massacre Big Grin He started off big argument in the studio and the female moderator totally lost nerves. Fun stuff. “Borat attack”.

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Do the Czechs typically not get on with Russians??
The thing with Katyn massacre, everyone cries 'Russia did it' but if you examine it more closely and look at the history it turns out those weren’t ethnic Russians, as in Slavic people, who murdered those Poles at Katyn, they were Jews. More than 80% of members of the NKVD that murdered Poles at Katyń were Jews.
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